Ed Aymar, also known as E.A. Barres, who does dark stuff and other thrillers, joins David and Torie. They pick sides on the Larson v. Dorland debate (one donated a kidney; the other wrote a story), and all agree that Hillary beats Bill on novel writing. First time novelist and NYT best seller Sasha P. Smith zooms in to share The Witch Haven, 1911 New York City filled with mystery, magic and powerful women.